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United States :
Tuesday was good for Obama but was special good to me in many ways. For on Tuesday, America made me see its promises live. It made me believe in a very endearing way in these United States.
Tuesday was good for America because many finally got the proof that in America all men are valued. That with hard work and fortitude, everyman’s potential can be realized in these United States.
Tuesday was good for me because now I can finally relax. I can confidently build my nest in America; blast to high pitches my sweet songs for America; bag my shells from the old country for a yard sale and; buy myself a befitting grave near the banks of the Mississippi River.
Tuesday was good for my children, Ijeamaka and Ogonna, for they will grow up in a country where the past is atoned and the future is reasoned. Where if you do not agree with the phases of the moon, you can get a ladder and climb up to repair it.
Because of Tuesday, inside a store, I will now be seen not just as a possible thief but also as a potential presidential candidate.
Because of Tuesday, out in the street, I will now be seen not just as a possible gang member but also as a potential great president.
Because of Tuesday, in my dreams, I will cruise up in the sky and even beyond, soaring and singing about the limitless of my reach.
Because of Tuesday, in painful moments, I will update the history books saying that though my forefathers were enslaved, my children can be the emancipators of our nation.
Because of Tuesday, inside my heart, I will rejoice so often for finally the dreams of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. have come to pass.
Tuesday made Malcolm smile in his grave, the way he used to before his teacher told him he could only be a carpenter.
Tuesday made Medgar Evers smile in his grave, the way he used to while praising the Lord before he was shot by a sniper. And so did Rev. George Wesley Lee, Lamar Smith, Emmett Louis Till, Vernon Ferdinand Dahmer and many others.
Tuesday made Addie MaeCollins, Denise McNair, Carle Robertson and Cynthia Wesley all glow up in paradise just as they were glowing when Ku Klux Klan fire bomb went off and consumed them at Sixteenth Street Baptist Church.
Tuesday made many who died in the struggle for equal rights look down from heaven and joyously exclaim, “That’s my country.”
Tuesday made many beaten, many jailed, many hurt in the fight for Civil Right to baptize their badges of honor into badges of forgiveness.
Tuesday was a new day across the world because of the special way America stretched its series of Only in America feats.
America said to the world, I value all my children and I let them go however high they want to go.
America said to the world, I outsource not just works but also dreams and ideals of democracy which have continued to keep me special amongst the nations of the world.
America said to the Black world, within your ranks are also the ones who will erase the memory of Mugabe, Abacha, Idi Amin, Bokassa and Mobutu.
America said to the rest of the world, handle all your children well, especially your black children, for they can bring healing, transfiguration and sunshine like no other.
Thank you, America. From the deepest chambers of my heart I say, thank you.
Thank you for half the job is done. You have shown courage and grace.
Thank you, America. Now let us take it to its logical end.
Thank you. I will continue to watch you, America. I will continue to watch what you do with Obama. And I wait to say the greatest thank you of all come November 5.
Thank you.
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... About the media... here is what I think:
The media began by giving the race to Hillary. But the media needed a story, a different story than all the Clinton stories of years past. They got it when Obama won in Iowa.
After Iowa, Obama became a phenomenon. The media got lost in its own hype. When it recovered, it hit Obama hard. But by then, it was too late to stop him. So it is not about being seen as anti-black.
Hillary’s campaign failed her more than anything else. She did not anticipate Obama’s coming. They did not plan to campaign beyond Super Tuesday. So she ran out of money, they got confused, Bill said some bad things, and as they say, the rest is history.
The media began by giving the race to Hillary. But the media needed a story, a different story than all the Clinton stories of years past. They got it when Obama won in Iowa.
After Iowa, Obama became a phenomenon. The media got lost in its own hype. When it recovered, it hit Obama hard. But by then, it was too late to stop him. So it is not about being seen as anti-black.
Hillary’s campaign failed her more than anything else. She did not anticipate Obama’s coming. They did not plan to campaign beyond Super Tuesday. So she ran out of money, they got confused, Bill said some bad things, and as they say, the rest is history.
(Local Perspectives)
The article was good but seemed a little biased to me. Nice inquiry about the media Rudolf.
(Local Perspectives)
Thanks America indeed! If Obama loses to McCain now people will start saying it's only because of all the racist and rednecks and not because of concerns of lack of experience or differences in political ideologies etc, etc, blah-blah-blah!
Then it will boil down to people like you to say something shitty as - Look world we're sorry we could have gotten you such a great president only of we were not so racist. But we gave our best. LOL.
Then it will boil down to people like you to say something shitty as - Look world we're sorry we could have gotten you such a great president only of we were not so racist. But we gave our best. LOL.
(Local Perspectives)
My heartfelt thanks to the people of America especially those in the Liberal camps to have handed us a third Bush-ian regime. The 'Black' Obama will never have it this way or that way. Can't wait for the general election results. Shame upon us. This semi-cooked politician actually ran out Hillary. Whoa!
(Global Perspectives)
So let me see if I understand. If YOU get what YOU want, then America is great. But if YOU don’t, then America sucks.
Nice philosophy.
Nice philosophy.
(Local Perspectives)
If you really look at it, America needs Obama more than Obama needs America.
For America to remain special, distinct, and idealistic, America, sooner or later will need an Obama. It is like that saying, for America to remain the same, America must change.
If Obama does not get it, it will be America’s loss more than it will be Obama’s.
Those who oppose Obama will always have their reasons both the spoken ones and the unspoken ones. The truth is that if not Obama today, it will be someone else tomorrow.
Eventually, there will be a president who will fulfill the sentiments I expressed here.
The ideals of America have not always been tried and found wanting, they are often found difficult and left untried. I hope America tries it this time. But if America fails, America will have another chance.
And one day, America will get it right. That is what makes America special and great.
For America to remain special, distinct, and idealistic, America, sooner or later will need an Obama. It is like that saying, for America to remain the same, America must change.
If Obama does not get it, it will be America’s loss more than it will be Obama’s.
Those who oppose Obama will always have their reasons both the spoken ones and the unspoken ones. The truth is that if not Obama today, it will be someone else tomorrow.
Eventually, there will be a president who will fulfill the sentiments I expressed here.
The ideals of America have not always been tried and found wanting, they are often found difficult and left untried. I hope America tries it this time. But if America fails, America will have another chance.
And one day, America will get it right. That is what makes America special and great.
(Local Perspectives)
By the way, are there rednecks and racists? How many are they? Do they influence election outcomes? Have they ever influenced election outcomes? Why is it important to be concerned about them? Because this is the first time their constituency has a reason to be stirred up.
I am watching America. I am watching to see what it does to Obama.
I am watching America. I am watching to see what it does to Obama.
(Local Perspectives)
Thanks U.S.A. for giving us a tight situation in our hands now. Commie propagandist Frank Marshall Davis was Obama's mentor and role model in Hawaii. Then in Chicago Mr. B Hussein Obama associated himself with terrorist and Weatherman group founder William Ayers. Of course, we all know his scandalous relationship with Jeremiah Wright.
And of course as Lewis Waters points out, his wife is so wary of Americans generally.
And of course as Lewis Waters points out, his wife is so wary of Americans generally.
(Local Perspectives)
This Obama guy doesn't give so much confidence to Blacks as Colin Powell did. He has a dubious past. He is not a going to do nothing for the Blacks in the US. So why are my cousins voting for him? I mean he is not a mean - mean guy, but he is not too clear either. It is not about nothing I say because it ain't in Black or White. There is somewhere shades of Gray in Obama.
(Global Perspectives)
According to Rudolf - The Wise Wolf - Ogoo Okonkwo anyone with a black skin is better than everything that anything that gets to run the country. Going by his thoughts one can safely say that Rudolf's countryman - His Excellency, The Deceased Champion in Liberia and Sierra Leone, or The Last King of Scotland with so much political experience would have made an excellent POTUS.
Better than McCain or Bush, right Sir?
Better than McCain or Bush, right Sir?
(Local Perspectives)
So let me guess what will happen? Obama will get in there, gather our secrets and hand over to the Russians. He will join Hamas. He will make Jeremiah Wright his ambassador to the United Nations.
People should just relax. I understand that this is a new situation. Many are scared to death of the possibility.
Like I have said somewhere else, no president is greater than America. A president, one writer said, is like a man appointed in a family to buy the meat. That is it.
There are forces behind the presidency that are more powerful than the president.
People should just relax. I understand that this is a new situation. Many are scared to death of the possibility.
Like I have said somewhere else, no president is greater than America. A president, one writer said, is like a man appointed in a family to buy the meat. That is it.
There are forces behind the presidency that are more powerful than the president.
(Local Perspectives)
David,
I did not say anything that resembled what you implied here.
I did not say anything that resembled what you implied here.
(Local Perspectives)
>>>>>>>There are forces behind the presidency that are more powerful than the president.
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Do you mean the Jews? We always suspected that and we always knew that either the Jews or the Men in Black are running America using your president as a front. So should I take it as you too believe in the 911 conspiracy theorists' thesis on what actually happened?
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Do you mean the Jews? We always suspected that and we always knew that either the Jews or the Men in Black are running America using your president as a front. So should I take it as you too believe in the 911 conspiracy theorists' thesis on what actually happened?
(Global Perspectives)
People should relax??!! Why not? Anyone registering with me for a 4-year-long trip to the Himalayas. I heard you find peace there. Anyone with some savings must seriously give it a thought. To the Himalayas we go.
(Local Perspectives)
I have been troubled by a question since Hillary Clinton's assassination gaffe. What if Hillary Clinton is assassinated now when everything is over and Barack Obama has virtually won the Democratic nomination for the presidency. I don't mean no malice, but it is a fact that Bill Clinton is a real target of the terrorists and naturally his family is too just like the first family of USA. She is in more danger than Obama who has a Muslim middle name. What would happen in that eventuality? McCain winning by a landslide?
(Global Perspectives)
Thanks Uncle Sam's nieces and nephews for giving Obama as a rival to the warmonger Bush's party. Did you do your homework before going to vote or just followed the herd?
A few facts then for you folks:
Mr. Obama did vote to re-authorise the Patriot Act that you so love.
Mr. Obama did propose to spend 0.7 percent of your Gross National Product as aid and grants to foreign countries.
Mr. Obama did vote to continue to fund the loathsome war in Iraq and voted against a troop pullout within a certain deadline.
*AHEM*
The question is are Americans a politically aware population or just a herd of 300 million human beings who can't analyse or look beyond their noses?
A few facts then for you folks:
Mr. Obama did vote to re-authorise the Patriot Act that you so love.
Mr. Obama did propose to spend 0.7 percent of your Gross National Product as aid and grants to foreign countries.
Mr. Obama did vote to continue to fund the loathsome war in Iraq and voted against a troop pullout within a certain deadline.
*AHEM*
The question is are Americans a politically aware population or just a herd of 300 million human beings who can't analyse or look beyond their noses?
(Global Perspectives)
Rudolf:
"If you really look at it, America needs Obama more than Obama needs America."
Really? How can you say so? Can you back your statement? This is kinda serious ain't it?
The truth is that Barack Obama stooped as low as the other Dem candidate in his quest to get the nomination. If what you said is right, he wouldn't have gone for the broke just as his opponent did.
You don't understand the black tragedy now. With Obama's win democrats lost the presidency already. It would have been the same if Hillary won the nomination.
The only positive outcome of Obama finally being able to clinch the nomination is that the blacks wouldn't find themselves being on the receiving end of a perennially racist America. It's a good thing.
"If you really look at it, America needs Obama more than Obama needs America."
Really? How can you say so? Can you back your statement? This is kinda serious ain't it?
The truth is that Barack Obama stooped as low as the other Dem candidate in his quest to get the nomination. If what you said is right, he wouldn't have gone for the broke just as his opponent did.
You don't understand the black tragedy now. With Obama's win democrats lost the presidency already. It would have been the same if Hillary won the nomination.
The only positive outcome of Obama finally being able to clinch the nomination is that the blacks wouldn't find themselves being on the receiving end of a perennially racist America. It's a good thing.
(Global Perspectives)
For a change I would like to agree with Denis, a neo-Soviet. He has a valid point and it is that there is going to be no change in Washington come January 2009.
Obama and McCain who is a member of the neo-con Bushist Church are all the same. May be America made a historical mistake that it can still avoid and save the Obama supporters from an indelible stigma and eternal embarrassment.
Obama and McCain who is a member of the neo-con Bushist Church are all the same. May be America made a historical mistake that it can still avoid and save the Obama supporters from an indelible stigma and eternal embarrassment.
(Local Perspectives)
Who is thanking America by the way? Is it the American blacks, or the people who voted for Obama or the black race in general. That prompts me to ask a question to the Obama supporters esp the Afro-Americans if they know of any agenda that Obama might have as foreign policy towards black majority countries esp in Africa and esp where there is civil war, dictatorship etc like Congo, Zimbabwe etc? Can anyone answer this please?
(Global Perspectives)
Rudolf and Taylor -
The media will always do what it takes to sell itself. When the campaign started it was Mrs. Clinton. When the trend started swaying Mr. Obama's way it swung towards his side. As they say, the media does not belong to anybody but the public. It will go along with public sentiments.
The media will always do what it takes to sell itself. When the campaign started it was Mrs. Clinton. When the trend started swaying Mr. Obama's way it swung towards his side. As they say, the media does not belong to anybody but the public. It will go along with public sentiments.
(Global Perspectives)
For those who are confused about what truly happened to Hillary, look at this independent view.
http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?source=hptextfeature&story_id=11496736
http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?source=hptextfeature&story_id=11496736
(Local Perspectives)
On Washington changing — Washignton is not a Poshe. It is a Truck. It cannot turn that fast. It can only be gradual. There is always something T.S. Eliot called the shadow - that is the gap between the idea and the reality. What is scary is having someone driving Washington who has no plan to change direction.
(Local Perspectives)
Everyone is leaning towards the same thing and that is it is being boiled down to racism. If we do elect Obama we aren’t racist and we have a young naive president who honestly will probably be a figure head. If we don’t elect him we are all racists and condemned. In the end we are damned if we do and damned if we don’t.
To be honest, I don’t believe either one of them, McCain or Obama are fit for the white house. They both have some good ideals and some really bad ones. But all in all I wouldn’t choose either one for the presidency. Hell, to go one step further I wouldn’t choose Hillary either. I’d much rather step back and see where this race goes and comment on the way then get into heavy discussions like this one here. Everyone has brought up valid points good discussion.
To be honest, I don’t believe either one of them, McCain or Obama are fit for the white house. They both have some good ideals and some really bad ones. But all in all I wouldn’t choose either one for the presidency. Hell, to go one step further I wouldn’t choose Hillary either. I’d much rather step back and see where this race goes and comment on the way then get into heavy discussions like this one here. Everyone has brought up valid points good discussion.
(Local Perspectives)
Rudolf, doesn’t the accomplishments of such people as Janice Rogers Brown, Condoleezza Rice, Clarence Thomas, Walter Williams, JC Watts, Thomas Sowell, Shelby Steele, Armstrong Williams, Colin Powell, Edward W. Brooke, James B. Parsons and so many others, all prior to Tuesday, mean anything?
Why do Blacks that make a free choice to be conservatives go unnoticed and ignored and in some cases, come under attack because they exercise their free will of choosing for themselves?
Have we regressed to the point that skin tone is the main, if not only, factor in selecting a leader?
You said before you were ”watching us,” or something like that. Haven’t you ever noticed when Black Conservatives achieve? Do they not count, only Obama?
Why do Blacks that make a free choice to be conservatives go unnoticed and ignored and in some cases, come under attack because they exercise their free will of choosing for themselves?
Have we regressed to the point that skin tone is the main, if not only, factor in selecting a leader?
You said before you were ”watching us,” or something like that. Haven’t you ever noticed when Black Conservatives achieve? Do they not count, only Obama?
(Local Perspectives)
Oh Taylor, not all Americans are racists. They are probably very few. But for the first time in American election their votes will matter greatly. The problem is that those who deny their existence and relevance compound the problem of knowing how many they are and how to factor them in.
(Local Perspectives)
Lewis,
I thought J.C. Watts would go far but he seemed to have been frustrated out. I don’t recall what he said when he left but it was a big indictment. Rice and Powell were never elected so in political terms I find their impact limited. I like Sowell, even though I don’t always agree with him. I believe everyone contributes but some contributions are more transforming.
Deep inside, I think Blacks are inherently conservative. And they used to be Republicans too. I think Republicans squeezed them out and are now wondering what happened. Those left in are consequently marginalized.
I thought J.C. Watts would go far but he seemed to have been frustrated out. I don’t recall what he said when he left but it was a big indictment. Rice and Powell were never elected so in political terms I find their impact limited. I like Sowell, even though I don’t always agree with him. I believe everyone contributes but some contributions are more transforming.
Deep inside, I think Blacks are inherently conservative. And they used to be Republicans too. I think Republicans squeezed them out and are now wondering what happened. Those left in are consequently marginalized.
(Local Perspectives)
No no, I didn’t say all Americans are racist. I only said that they would think we would be racist for not choosing Obama. I also included the world viewing us. But like Lewis said,
”Have we regressed to the point that skin tone is the main, if not only, factor in selecting a leader?”
I believe it is getting somewhere near that point. Although I don’t want it to go that far, but I talk to a lot of people and that is their point of view exactly.
”It’s time for a black president.”
”We need a black president.”
”If Obama gets the nomination I’m voting for him, I’ve always wanted a Black president.”
Sadly to say those are all true statements by people I have talked to. Honest to god I was dumbfounded by the boldness of these people. Just to look as far as the skin and not even the points and what makes Obama up? Why should he be president? His skin? No, what he stands for and what he will do once he gets in. That’s how any president should be elected.
”Have we regressed to the point that skin tone is the main, if not only, factor in selecting a leader?”
I believe it is getting somewhere near that point. Although I don’t want it to go that far, but I talk to a lot of people and that is their point of view exactly.
”It’s time for a black president.”
”We need a black president.”
”If Obama gets the nomination I’m voting for him, I’ve always wanted a Black president.”
Sadly to say those are all true statements by people I have talked to. Honest to god I was dumbfounded by the boldness of these people. Just to look as far as the skin and not even the points and what makes Obama up? Why should he be president? His skin? No, what he stands for and what he will do once he gets in. That’s how any president should be elected.
(Local Perspectives)
For those on the margin of society, the underprivileged, those who feel left out, the ideal is just the ideal. It may be there but they do not see it neither do they partake in it. If you know where they are coming from, you will only sympathize when you hear them say things like:
”It’s time for a black president.”
”We need a black president.”
”If Obama gets the nomination I’m voting for him, I’ve always wanted a Black president.”
The Native Americans will say the same thing under the same circumstances. So will the Hispanic one of these days.
In a place like Virginia, they probably said the same things when Wilder was running for Governor. But they did not continue. Like many others, Black voters in Virginia have accepted the ideal. And so will it be after the Obama presidency – Black voters will return and accept the ideals. For now, they want to be indulged and for good reasons.
”It’s time for a black president.”
”We need a black president.”
”If Obama gets the nomination I’m voting for him, I’ve always wanted a Black president.”
The Native Americans will say the same thing under the same circumstances. So will the Hispanic one of these days.
In a place like Virginia, they probably said the same things when Wilder was running for Governor. But they did not continue. Like many others, Black voters in Virginia have accepted the ideal. And so will it be after the Obama presidency – Black voters will return and accept the ideals. For now, they want to be indulged and for good reasons.
(Local Perspectives)
One thing is those came from White voters, and another I know what you mean. I truly do sympathize with people that have been through so much like the African American people but frankly it doesn’t matter if they need to indulge or not.
They are choosing blindly, if that is what you meant by,
”Black voters will return and accept the ideals. For now, they want to be indulged and for good reasons.”
Even if they accept his views after they vote him in, they should have done that before they voted him in. If I’m getting that wrong then correct me but it seems like you are saying they are picking him because he is black and not because of what they think of what he believes.
They are choosing blindly, if that is what you meant by,
”Black voters will return and accept the ideals. For now, they want to be indulged and for good reasons.”
Even if they accept his views after they vote him in, they should have done that before they voted him in. If I’m getting that wrong then correct me but it seems like you are saying they are picking him because he is black and not because of what they think of what he believes.
(Local Perspectives)
It is easy to forget that Black voters rejected Obama until he won in Iowa. They waited until White voters said it was OK before they embraced him. So the signal came from White voters. And going by their voting records, Black voters would have voted for anyone the Democratic Party filled. So it wasn’t just because he is Black. His Blackness probably made Black voters more enthusiastic about him. But that was after White voters said he was OK.
(Local Perspectives)
Yeah but that is still influencing their vote without them actually deciding for themselves. Who cares what the white voters had to say? Especially whether it was ok or not to vote for him. Black voters can vote for whom ever they want and the fact that you say they waited for White Voters to say it was ok isn’t helping at all. It still implies that fact that they still aren’t voting for him by merit and his statements and what he believes.
Besides, African Americans got the right to vote years ago and to say for them to be waiting for our approval on whom to vote for just sends the message that they really aren’t voting for themselves but for where the white vote goes. Frankly speaking you are pretty right about them voting for any democrat spot, but to follow the white vote isn’t why in the constitution ”Right to Freedom and Free Speech”.
Besides, African Americans got the right to vote years ago and to say for them to be waiting for our approval on whom to vote for just sends the message that they really aren’t voting for themselves but for where the white vote goes. Frankly speaking you are pretty right about them voting for any democrat spot, but to follow the white vote isn’t why in the constitution ”Right to Freedom and Free Speech”.
(Local Perspectives)
Well, it did not start with Obama and my bet is that it will not with Obama either.
(Local Perspectives)
Obama vs MCcain
Both have vague policies that need light sped upon.
One is young, barely any experience.
One is old, maybe too much experience.
It balances itself out in the end. Both are sour candidates and one must be chosen. I wish there would be another JFK, Regan, or Roosevelt run where it is clear cut who’s the best.
Very indulging discussion Rudolf.
To be totally honest I don’t it is yet time for an African American president. I’m totally fine with there being one but there’s still that spot on America’s clothes that hasn’t quite washed off yet. I believe in years to come we will be more applicable to have a Black President. Hell even Powell said it I believe. (Long time ago, when Obama was still deciding, I believe)
I think given some more experience in politics, and foreign relations Obama will be fit to be president but I don’t think it is yet time for him. I’d rather have a fully qualified president than one going in not knowing what to expect. I’m not for MCcain either. I’m pretty neutral, I don’t want either one.
See you around Rudolf, looking for more awesome articles from you. :)
Both have vague policies that need light sped upon.
One is young, barely any experience.
One is old, maybe too much experience.
It balances itself out in the end. Both are sour candidates and one must be chosen. I wish there would be another JFK, Regan, or Roosevelt run where it is clear cut who’s the best.
Very indulging discussion Rudolf.
To be totally honest I don’t it is yet time for an African American president. I’m totally fine with there being one but there’s still that spot on America’s clothes that hasn’t quite washed off yet. I believe in years to come we will be more applicable to have a Black President. Hell even Powell said it I believe. (Long time ago, when Obama was still deciding, I believe)
I think given some more experience in politics, and foreign relations Obama will be fit to be president but I don’t think it is yet time for him. I’d rather have a fully qualified president than one going in not knowing what to expect. I’m not for MCcain either. I’m pretty neutral, I don’t want either one.
See you around Rudolf, looking for more awesome articles from you. :)
(Local Perspectives)
Rudolf, Republicans did not squeeze any Blacks out. Civil Rights in the 1960’s was passed largely due to Republicans and Northern Democrats. The Solid Democrat South heavily opposed.
Somewhere along the line the Democrats found a way to keep Blacks down, welfare and entitlements. Too many fell for it and are stuck in inner cities, ridiculing others who strive to learn, get a good education and escape into something better.
When I was growing up, even before the Civil Rights, we are segregated, but the Blacks took pride in themselves, in their surroundings, even as sub parr as they were. Somehwere during the 5 years I was overseas, much of that changed. In fact, a lot in America changed, it seems.
In spite of the charges of how racist Republicans are, is it racist to encourgae someone to strive to be the best they can be and not make them dependent upon handouts?
As far as Colin and Condoleezza, why isn’t their first of nominations of any impact? Why was the left permitted to get away with portraying Ms. Rice as a ”House Negro” in cartoons?
In the case of Janice Rogers Brown, how more accomplished can a Black female be? Yet, as her nomination was put forth, it was Ted Kennedy that referred to the nominations of the time as ”Neanderthals.” Yet, he received a pass for such a statement.
Obama has mispoke several times, many more than Dan Quayle. A Republican who be ridiculed endlessly for such gaffes, but why not Obama? Why is he above reproach?
Is it we must have a Black president, qualified or not?
I see and read accounts of Europe watching America with a hint of we must elect Obama to prove ourselves not racist. Don’t qualifications matter any longer? Then again, who is Europe to talk about American politics? When was their last Black leader?
I’ve said it many times in many places, to support his candidacy based solely on race is just as wrong as it is to oppose him solely based upon race.
Placing an inexperienced person in the Oval Office to make up for some grievance centuries old is not in the best interest of the nation or world. Black, white, doesn’t matter. Whoever is elected should be elected based upon qualifications, experience and values, not skin tone.
A very wise man once said, ”I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”
As I see it, the heavy emphasis on Obama’s skin tone, over his qualifications and experience, runs counter to those words.
Somewhere along the line the Democrats found a way to keep Blacks down, welfare and entitlements. Too many fell for it and are stuck in inner cities, ridiculing others who strive to learn, get a good education and escape into something better.
When I was growing up, even before the Civil Rights, we are segregated, but the Blacks took pride in themselves, in their surroundings, even as sub parr as they were. Somehwere during the 5 years I was overseas, much of that changed. In fact, a lot in America changed, it seems.
In spite of the charges of how racist Republicans are, is it racist to encourgae someone to strive to be the best they can be and not make them dependent upon handouts?
As far as Colin and Condoleezza, why isn’t their first of nominations of any impact? Why was the left permitted to get away with portraying Ms. Rice as a ”House Negro” in cartoons?
In the case of Janice Rogers Brown, how more accomplished can a Black female be? Yet, as her nomination was put forth, it was Ted Kennedy that referred to the nominations of the time as ”Neanderthals.” Yet, he received a pass for such a statement.
Obama has mispoke several times, many more than Dan Quayle. A Republican who be ridiculed endlessly for such gaffes, but why not Obama? Why is he above reproach?
Is it we must have a Black president, qualified or not?
I see and read accounts of Europe watching America with a hint of we must elect Obama to prove ourselves not racist. Don’t qualifications matter any longer? Then again, who is Europe to talk about American politics? When was their last Black leader?
I’ve said it many times in many places, to support his candidacy based solely on race is just as wrong as it is to oppose him solely based upon race.
Placing an inexperienced person in the Oval Office to make up for some grievance centuries old is not in the best interest of the nation or world. Black, white, doesn’t matter. Whoever is elected should be elected based upon qualifications, experience and values, not skin tone.
A very wise man once said, ”I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”
As I see it, the heavy emphasis on Obama’s skin tone, over his qualifications and experience, runs counter to those words.
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My god that couldn’t have been said better. Oh fantastic comment my friend. I agree with every word you said. Like I said, we need someone who is going to run America, not be a figurehead. You should write an article on your views of the current race. I’m sure a lot of people would find it very interesting.
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I found this interesting site by way of my good friend and fellow writer Lew Waters. I have expressed my feelings on this subject of Barack Obama in my first post here ”Elect Obama, Destroy America”. I hope you will find it interesting.
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Lewis:
Your last comment is awesome and put forward your case in this debate very strongly. However, I can fully understand the sentiments behind Rudolf's desire to see a black president and that is not because of the color of his skin but many things other too. He is just not being able to articulate and sum it up like you did in your fantastic comment. Please check Rudolf's answer to comments when asked about something specifically. He scores well. He is better in answering tactically.
Europe having a black leader is irrelevant. Though Europeans were largely responsible for slave trade, Europe itself did not have slaves. Britain and other countries actually banned slavery centuries before the Emancipation Proclamation by Lincoln in America and slave trade, and imposed it in the high seas as well. Please watch the movie Amistad by Stephen Spielberg. Countries like Portugal and Spain ran slave ships with full support from their respective governments but those for only the USA. Britain on the other hand tried its best to stop it. They do not have a embarrassing history of repression, oppression and barbarism like we do in the last 200 odd years, and I am not even speaking of what Martin Luther King Jr. etc stood for.
Also, it is a fact that the blacks in Europe do not form a sizable entity, political or otherwise. In fact, a sizable number of European blacks are foreigners there for making a living.
I have thoroughly enjoyed the comments here.
Your last comment is awesome and put forward your case in this debate very strongly. However, I can fully understand the sentiments behind Rudolf's desire to see a black president and that is not because of the color of his skin but many things other too. He is just not being able to articulate and sum it up like you did in your fantastic comment. Please check Rudolf's answer to comments when asked about something specifically. He scores well. He is better in answering tactically.
Europe having a black leader is irrelevant. Though Europeans were largely responsible for slave trade, Europe itself did not have slaves. Britain and other countries actually banned slavery centuries before the Emancipation Proclamation by Lincoln in America and slave trade, and imposed it in the high seas as well. Please watch the movie Amistad by Stephen Spielberg. Countries like Portugal and Spain ran slave ships with full support from their respective governments but those for only the USA. Britain on the other hand tried its best to stop it. They do not have a embarrassing history of repression, oppression and barbarism like we do in the last 200 odd years, and I am not even speaking of what Martin Luther King Jr. etc stood for.
Also, it is a fact that the blacks in Europe do not form a sizable entity, political or otherwise. In fact, a sizable number of European blacks are foreigners there for making a living.
I have thoroughly enjoyed the comments here.
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I will take up some of the issues raised by Lewis in an article. In the meantime, look at this NY Times piece and see that Herbert came to the same conclusion.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/07/opinion/07herbert.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/07/opinion/07herbert.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
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Rudolf, the main issue concerning Senator Obama is not and should not be his race or skin color, but his qualifications and experience.
America is not a small country with few citizens, we are the lone Super Power in the world. We are currently at war with an ideology that desires our destruction and has no qualms attacking us without mercy.
Whoever is selected to lead the country, regardless of race, gender or political party, should have a clear record of experience, values and qualifications that they are can provide adequate leadership, not just speak what some desire to hear.
Other candidates with longer records, more experience and clearly stated records fell by the wayside in favor of the candidates we have now.
The presidency of the United States is not a position to be used for the purpose of righting social wrongs of the past. The stakes for the entire world are too high.
America is not a small country with few citizens, we are the lone Super Power in the world. We are currently at war with an ideology that desires our destruction and has no qualms attacking us without mercy.
Whoever is selected to lead the country, regardless of race, gender or political party, should have a clear record of experience, values and qualifications that they are can provide adequate leadership, not just speak what some desire to hear.
Other candidates with longer records, more experience and clearly stated records fell by the wayside in favor of the candidates we have now.
The presidency of the United States is not a position to be used for the purpose of righting social wrongs of the past. The stakes for the entire world are too high.
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Here is what the other side, the feminist side thinks.
http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?source=hptextfeature&story_id=11496736
No Lweis, the presidency is not being used to right past wrongs... if it were Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson would have been elected President long ago.
The fact is that Obama had something in him that made thousands of voters in Iowa to put him on the path to the Presidency. Maybe some will have to go and ask those voters what it is. That may really be the beginning of this quest.
http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?source=hptextfeature&story_id=11496736
No Lweis, the presidency is not being used to right past wrongs... if it were Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson would have been elected President long ago.
The fact is that Obama had something in him that made thousands of voters in Iowa to put him on the path to the Presidency. Maybe some will have to go and ask those voters what it is. That may really be the beginning of this quest.
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I gave the wrong link up: Here is the right link.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/07/opinion/07collins.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/07/opinion/07collins.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
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Hillary Clinton in her own words minutes ago:
“We cannot let this moment slip away. We have come too far and accomplished too much.
“Now, the journey ahead will not be easy. Some will say we can’t do it, that it’s too hard, we’re just not up to the task. But for as long as America has existed, it has been the American way to reject can’t-do claims and to choose instead to stretch the boundaries of the possible through hard work, determination, and a pioneering spirit.
“…When you hear people saying or think to yourself, ”If only, or, ”What if,” I say, please, don’t go there. Every moment wasted looking back keeps us from moving forward.
“Life is too short, time is too precious, and the stakes are too high to dwell on what might have been. We have to work together for what still can be. And that is why I will work my heart out to make sure that Senator Obama is our next president.”
Thank you, Hill.
“We cannot let this moment slip away. We have come too far and accomplished too much.
“Now, the journey ahead will not be easy. Some will say we can’t do it, that it’s too hard, we’re just not up to the task. But for as long as America has existed, it has been the American way to reject can’t-do claims and to choose instead to stretch the boundaries of the possible through hard work, determination, and a pioneering spirit.
“…When you hear people saying or think to yourself, ”If only, or, ”What if,” I say, please, don’t go there. Every moment wasted looking back keeps us from moving forward.
“Life is too short, time is too precious, and the stakes are too high to dwell on what might have been. We have to work together for what still can be. And that is why I will work my heart out to make sure that Senator Obama is our next president.”
Thank you, Hill.
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”No Lweis, the presidency is not being used to right past wrongs... if it were Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson would have been elected President long ago.”
Rudolf, Obama’s campaign has every earmark of being used to right past wrongs. Nowhere in this campaign do we hear of his experience, qualifications, values or such, only that he is Black and it is time.
I will agree it is long past time for a Black person to be president, it never should have been any other way, but it was.
Obama is a very articulate person, when reading a speech. He doesn’t fair well with off the cuff answers, though. He is a charismatic person and does draw people to him.
But, where is his experience? Where is his record so the public can see where he stands on issues other than his opposition to the war?
I applaud you for supporting him with all your might, but shouldn’t you be able to give a clear statement of his qualifications and experience to encourage others to support him as well?
Rudolf, Obama’s campaign has every earmark of being used to right past wrongs. Nowhere in this campaign do we hear of his experience, qualifications, values or such, only that he is Black and it is time.
I will agree it is long past time for a Black person to be president, it never should have been any other way, but it was.
Obama is a very articulate person, when reading a speech. He doesn’t fair well with off the cuff answers, though. He is a charismatic person and does draw people to him.
But, where is his experience? Where is his record so the public can see where he stands on issues other than his opposition to the war?
I applaud you for supporting him with all your might, but shouldn’t you be able to give a clear statement of his qualifications and experience to encourage others to support him as well?
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File Type: ImageMaybe he could have proven something during the tenure and done something for himself championing his cause and his colour in the next general elections, or the elections after that when Hillary would have been constitutionally invalid to seek a third term, that is if the Dems did a really wonderful job running the country and the world.
As things stand now, a person who has got just over a decade and half to live is going to be at the helm of American affairs - domestic and foreign. This grave pilgrim McCain guy has nothing to lose apart from his virginity now.
It would be safe to say that the blacks defeated America in their own cause. You are a bunch of shallow pin-heads. Come round or ink would continue to be produced washing the black babies in the sink.
May Willie Brown bless you Negros down there. See the image and think. What have you done! You squandered a golden opportunity by supporting him like rabid dogs who should have been shot. You have no brains at all.
Bastard immoral black Americans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shit! I feel so let down by brainless blacks who got a ballot. Never ever call yourself a black!!
I am sobbing now :-(
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Listen Mr. Ass a.k.a. Donkey McBlack. Hamas is NOT a terror group. It is a political party that has won the popular elections in Palestine. If you are trying to imply Ghandi and Nehrus' Indian Congress and Mandela's ANC as terror organization you are an ignorant fool.
One person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. When talking in an international forum we expect you dear cousin that you are balanced. HAMAS didnt fuck around in Abuja or Washington DC. Your love for Israel and Zionists must end somewhere before you say something. InstaBlogs is not an American website.
What the hell you know about HAMAS? Now please dont hit Google or Wikipedia. Before Martyr Arafat became the President of Palestine and won the Nobel for Peace he was also your terrorist.
I am happy you acknowledge that there are forces behind the presidency that are more powerful than the president. That force can only be the Zionists who run your political, financial and social games.
By the way cousin do you think that the Jews who are one single collective group will vote for the liberal black with a Muslim middle name? You lost 50% of the American votes there. Now think Indians and Pakistanis. Who would they vote for?
Pray the Chinese vote for you as a collective community.
One person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. When talking in an international forum we expect you dear cousin that you are balanced. HAMAS didnt fuck around in Abuja or Washington DC. Your love for Israel and Zionists must end somewhere before you say something. InstaBlogs is not an American website.
What the hell you know about HAMAS? Now please dont hit Google or Wikipedia. Before Martyr Arafat became the President of Palestine and won the Nobel for Peace he was also your terrorist.
I am happy you acknowledge that there are forces behind the presidency that are more powerful than the president. That force can only be the Zionists who run your political, financial and social games.
By the way cousin do you think that the Jews who are one single collective group will vote for the liberal black with a Muslim middle name? You lost 50% of the American votes there. Now think Indians and Pakistanis. Who would they vote for?
Pray the Chinese vote for you as a collective community.
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One more thing. Don't say that Hitler and Mugabe also won popular elections as example to despotism. Even George W. Bush won the elections by popular mandate and he is no lesser than the two despots I mentioned if not more dangerous when we see what he had been doing in the rest of the world with his military.
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I remarked in a comment a few weeks ago that someone was becoming hyper-active here. He excused himself saying that he had some kind of exams to face and he would be back returning fire by fire. It seems that I would rather enjoy watching the pyrotechnics from the gallery than actually jumping into the arena.
*APPLAUSE*
*APPLAUSE*
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hi Joseph
Thatz a bad pic and even bad example. It show they are cremating a dead body who happens to be a black man. White men are resposibale for human rights in world. The dead man must be some war hero like we see in glory movie or something real in life................... joesph miguel is not a African name. Im doubting you seriously.
Thatz a bad pic and even bad example. It show they are cremating a dead body who happens to be a black man. White men are resposibale for human rights in world. The dead man must be some war hero like we see in glory movie or something real in life................... joesph miguel is not a African name. Im doubting you seriously.
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Lewis,
I believe I dealt with the issue of experience and its relevance here.
http://rudolf-ogoo.instablogs.com/entry/mccain-or-obama-who-stole-the-real-debate-on-issues/
But to answer you directly, here is Obama’s experience as compared with other presidents.
Barack Obama was the first African – American President of the Harvard Law Review. He worked as a grassroots organizer in Chicago after obtaining his Law degree. He later became a constitutional law teacher at the University of Chicago School of Law. Obama was an Illinois state senator from 1996 to 2004. He was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2004 and is serving his first term.
Lincoln was lawyer and a one term member of the United States House of Representatives, and an unsuccessful candidate for election to the Senate. He was elected president by the new Republican Party he helped form.
Teddy Roosevelt was governor for two years and vice president for six months before he became president.
Franklin Roosevelt was governor for four years before he became president.
Washington, Eisenhower, Grant were war generals who never held public offices. They became presidents on the wave of popularity as war heroes.
Woodrow Wilson was a lawyer and academic who became Governor of New Jersey in 1910. Two years after, he was elected president of the United States.
I believe I dealt with the issue of experience and its relevance here.
http://rudolf-ogoo.instablogs.com/entry/mccain-or-obama-who-stole-the-real-debate-on-issues/
But to answer you directly, here is Obama’s experience as compared with other presidents.
Barack Obama was the first African – American President of the Harvard Law Review. He worked as a grassroots organizer in Chicago after obtaining his Law degree. He later became a constitutional law teacher at the University of Chicago School of Law. Obama was an Illinois state senator from 1996 to 2004. He was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2004 and is serving his first term.
Lincoln was lawyer and a one term member of the United States House of Representatives, and an unsuccessful candidate for election to the Senate. He was elected president by the new Republican Party he helped form.
Teddy Roosevelt was governor for two years and vice president for six months before he became president.
Franklin Roosevelt was governor for four years before he became president.
Washington, Eisenhower, Grant were war generals who never held public offices. They became presidents on the wave of popularity as war heroes.
Woodrow Wilson was a lawyer and academic who became Governor of New Jersey in 1910. Two years after, he was elected president of the United States.
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Joseph,
I understand.
Where you are, it is difficult to aim high. You are condemned to low expectations. It is not your fault.
Shihadeh,
I do not understand what your beef is. But that not withstanding, all the best.
Denis,
Bring it on. I am off school until August.
I understand.
Where you are, it is difficult to aim high. You are condemned to low expectations. It is not your fault.
Shihadeh,
I do not understand what your beef is. But that not withstanding, all the best.
Denis,
Bring it on. I am off school until August.
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Yes I agree. I am in a derelict nation trapped in quagmire of defeatism. I shouldn't expect high. Neither should any wretched black African. Perhaps I should have stayed back in the US where I studied. I had the opportunity. Most of my relatives did when they had the chance. I agree.
But think for a moment what you have done. You went outside the conventional old wisdom and tried to take a suicidal shortcut.
I should not expect too high. I agree. I am a brainless African. But I expected you to show some wisdom to get your rabbit trapped. You just scared the game away. I am not a dwarf trying to reach the moon after all. But you are. Let us see where you stand in the January 2008 inauguration.
You have killed the goose that laid the golden eggs. Now suffer.
But think for a moment what you have done. You went outside the conventional old wisdom and tried to take a suicidal shortcut.
I should not expect too high. I agree. I am a brainless African. But I expected you to show some wisdom to get your rabbit trapped. You just scared the game away. I am not a dwarf trying to reach the moon after all. But you are. Let us see where you stand in the January 2008 inauguration.
You have killed the goose that laid the golden eggs. Now suffer.
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File Type: ImageHere we go -- folks imagine the music playing --
Wise man says, only fools rush in
But I cant help falling in love with you
Shall I stay Would it be a sin
If I cant help falling in love with you
Like a river flows surely to the sea
Darling so it goes Some things are meant to be
Take my hand, take my whole life too
For I cant help falling in love with you Like a river flows surely to the sea
Darling so it goes
Some things are meant to be
Take my hand, take my whole life too
For I cant help falling in love with you
For I cant help falling in love with you...
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I can't help but fall in love with you my fellas. Today you have proven that America is the greatest country ever to have been in this planet. Today, when not the presidential elections, but the party elections for a nomination outweighs the major one and happens to be able to capture the imagination of the whole planet. I can't be prouder than I am now ever in my life. I am a fool but America, I plead you to "take my hand, take my whole life too." Greatest moment for United States of America.
May we always be the lodestar that would lead mankind into much greater glories -- beyond one can ever imagine. Reckon I am growing old. The internet is not my thing, so Bobby doing it for me.
I am dancing nonetheless for just being an American.
May God be with us. May God be with us. May God be with us.
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Joeseph,
I will refer you again to Hillary’s words earlier today:
We cannot let this moment slip away. We have come too far and accomplished too much.
“Now, the journey ahead will not be easy. Some will say we can’t do it, that it’s too hard, we’re just not up to the task. But for as long as America has existed, it has been the American way to reject can’t-do claims and to choose instead to stretch the boundaries of the possible through hard work, determination, and a pioneering spirit.”
If Obama ends up not making it, it won’t be the end of the world. Someone else will try at another time. But I am confident that he will make it and come Jan 2009, you and many others will attribute his success to destiny instead of hard work, optimism and hope.
I will refer you again to Hillary’s words earlier today:
We cannot let this moment slip away. We have come too far and accomplished too much.
“Now, the journey ahead will not be easy. Some will say we can’t do it, that it’s too hard, we’re just not up to the task. But for as long as America has existed, it has been the American way to reject can’t-do claims and to choose instead to stretch the boundaries of the possible through hard work, determination, and a pioneering spirit.”
If Obama ends up not making it, it won’t be the end of the world. Someone else will try at another time. But I am confident that he will make it and come Jan 2009, you and many others will attribute his success to destiny instead of hard work, optimism and hope.
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Sorry for the typo in this line ->>> Let us see where you stand in the January 2008 inauguration.
It should have read "Let us see where you stand in the January 2009 inauguration."
One can forgive me for being a citizen of a country that has lost all hopes and can't hope to hope to aim high. All apologies.
It should have read "Let us see where you stand in the January 2009 inauguration."
One can forgive me for being a citizen of a country that has lost all hopes and can't hope to hope to aim high. All apologies.
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Suddenly the blacks who loathed Hillary Clinton [evident from the articles here in this site itself] have found a new lady love in her. These hypocrites will not have it this way or that way. Now that they know without her support the black dream wouldn't be accomplished that the pundits are quoting what the battered lady had to say in her campaign concluding speech.
I remember [I will find out where and link it if some one seeks it] that the hatred that a certain section of Democrats showed to their own party member and nomination candidate is despicable citing his own dislike for McCain despite being a Republican.
Nonetheless, a Hussein is better than a McCain. At least, he won't be a Russophobe.
I remember [I will find out where and link it if some one seeks it] that the hatred that a certain section of Democrats showed to their own party member and nomination candidate is despicable citing his own dislike for McCain despite being a Republican.
Nonetheless, a Hussein is better than a McCain. At least, he won't be a Russophobe.
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We shall definitely annex the White House from the thugs who had been ruling the world and destroying the American love for freedom and justice for the last 8 years. I don't mind whether there is a white or a black taking and making decisions from the Oval Office. I just want to see the back of the conservatives off the affairs of my country.
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Joseph,
Hopefully Obama’s win will make you believe. Like I said in the original piece that started all these, it will make so many people trapped in the cage of hopelessness and disbelief to revisit their ever present potential and do something to restore their dignity and reclaim their rightful place in the comity of nations. That is all we are aiming for – common good.
Hopefully Obama’s win will make you believe. Like I said in the original piece that started all these, it will make so many people trapped in the cage of hopelessness and disbelief to revisit their ever present potential and do something to restore their dignity and reclaim their rightful place in the comity of nations. That is all we are aiming for – common good.
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I found this interesting piece on Obama’s unique place in presidential tip bits.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080607/pl_bloomberg/aauiiclmefwa
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080607/pl_bloomberg/aauiiclmefwa
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I also found this interesting piece from last year, Barack Obama’s unlikely political education
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Hi Lewis,
I just read The Agitator by Ryan Lizza. It was an illuminating piece. Thanks for the link. But I would like to say that there is not even a single politician in the world who has a real crack at the top executive seat of a country who do not have a past, not necessarily to be ashamed of, but to be embarrassed of.
For example, if a 12 year old boy who just learned how to shag does it with a few other boys in the school lavatory, and then grows out to become a formidable politician gunning for the top political post and suddenly someone from his past (who actually is a gay activist) comes out and says he was homosexually inclined, how would it sound?
I just read The Agitator by Ryan Lizza. It was an illuminating piece. Thanks for the link. But I would like to say that there is not even a single politician in the world who has a real crack at the top executive seat of a country who do not have a past, not necessarily to be ashamed of, but to be embarrassed of.
For example, if a 12 year old boy who just learned how to shag does it with a few other boys in the school lavatory, and then grows out to become a formidable politician gunning for the top political post and suddenly someone from his past (who actually is a gay activist) comes out and says he was homosexually inclined, how would it sound?
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Chocolat, yes every politician has a past, even those who claim to not ”inhaled.”
That being said, the pasts of each is relevant when it shows a long history of activism counter to the best interests of the entire country and supportive of a socialist agenda.
Rudolf, I appreciate your effort at showing Obama’s experience. You are the first Obama supporter I have spoken with that tried.
That being said, the claim of his being a ” grassroots organizer” is merely a fancier way of saying he was a ”Social Activist” in the mold of Saul Alinsky, whose tactics he was taught and appears to admire.
If memory serves me, you equated Obama to Lincoln in your other article in that Lincoln was credited with ”ending the Civil War.” The facts is, he ”WON” the Civil War, not just ended it in the manner Obama desires to end the current one by abandoning a struggling ally.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/04/29/an_old_newness
That being said, the pasts of each is relevant when it shows a long history of activism counter to the best interests of the entire country and supportive of a socialist agenda.
Rudolf, I appreciate your effort at showing Obama’s experience. You are the first Obama supporter I have spoken with that tried.
That being said, the claim of his being a ” grassroots organizer” is merely a fancier way of saying he was a ”Social Activist” in the mold of Saul Alinsky, whose tactics he was taught and appears to admire.
If memory serves me, you equated Obama to Lincoln in your other article in that Lincoln was credited with ”ending the Civil War.” The facts is, he ”WON” the Civil War, not just ended it in the manner Obama desires to end the current one by abandoning a struggling ally.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/04/29/an_old_newness
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Here is a journlaist with an ear that listens to sound coming beyond the borders of America on his take on the same theme of the worldwide view of what America did by nominating Obama as a Presidential candidate.
He seems to agree with me.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/11/opinion/11friedman.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
He seems to agree with me.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/11/opinion/11friedman.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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OK, Lewis,
I read Sowell. Of course, I disagreed with him. But I like him because he was talking about the issues.
He thinks it is dangerous to talk to Iran for instance. ..That it has been tried before and it failed. What he left out is that Obama did not say that it is all he will do. We all know that Kennedy did talk to the Soviet leader. And if talk doesn’t work, all leaders always have as backup the old plan. Remember that presidents change but the powers behind the president remain the same.
His disagreement with Obama is the same he will have with Clinton, Edwards or any other Democrat. I am OK with that. He thinks that Obama or any other Democrat will tax businesses out of business. If he is afraid of Obama on that count, imagine what Edwards would have done. I happen to think that “supply side economics” is a fraud that keeps feeding the fat cows and that nothing tickles down to the people.
He talked about appointment of Judges to the courts, including the Supreme Court. I expect a conservative like Sowell to be worried about the judges Obama will appoint that the same way a liberal will be worried about the judges that McCain will appoint who will ban abortion in America. That is politics.
But really, we all know that a president does not govern alone and that the reality gets to hit any president when he or she gets into power. In all cases, they adjust accordingly.
Where I think Sowell got it wrong is to say that Obama will be “promoting a sense of envy and grievance.” He did not provide any proof and it is the first time something quite contrary is being attributed to him. Unless he is basing such a huge statement on the “bitterness comment.”
So having said that, I think his characterization of Obama as “arrogant, foolishly clever and ultimately dangerous” is over the board. I am beginning to think that for many people the idea that Obama, young and articulate, could dare to dream the kind of dream he has is annoying. Maybe it is a generation thing. Maybe it is envy. Otherwise, there is no reason whatsoever to characterize Obama this way. In fact, if you take out clever, that description fits our current conservative President, George W. Bush, very well.
I read Sowell. Of course, I disagreed with him. But I like him because he was talking about the issues.
He thinks it is dangerous to talk to Iran for instance. ..That it has been tried before and it failed. What he left out is that Obama did not say that it is all he will do. We all know that Kennedy did talk to the Soviet leader. And if talk doesn’t work, all leaders always have as backup the old plan. Remember that presidents change but the powers behind the president remain the same.
His disagreement with Obama is the same he will have with Clinton, Edwards or any other Democrat. I am OK with that. He thinks that Obama or any other Democrat will tax businesses out of business. If he is afraid of Obama on that count, imagine what Edwards would have done. I happen to think that “supply side economics” is a fraud that keeps feeding the fat cows and that nothing tickles down to the people.
He talked about appointment of Judges to the courts, including the Supreme Court. I expect a conservative like Sowell to be worried about the judges Obama will appoint that the same way a liberal will be worried about the judges that McCain will appoint who will ban abortion in America. That is politics.
But really, we all know that a president does not govern alone and that the reality gets to hit any president when he or she gets into power. In all cases, they adjust accordingly.
Where I think Sowell got it wrong is to say that Obama will be “promoting a sense of envy and grievance.” He did not provide any proof and it is the first time something quite contrary is being attributed to him. Unless he is basing such a huge statement on the “bitterness comment.”
So having said that, I think his characterization of Obama as “arrogant, foolishly clever and ultimately dangerous” is over the board. I am beginning to think that for many people the idea that Obama, young and articulate, could dare to dream the kind of dream he has is annoying. Maybe it is a generation thing. Maybe it is envy. Otherwise, there is no reason whatsoever to characterize Obama this way. In fact, if you take out clever, that description fits our current conservative President, George W. Bush, very well.
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Rudolf, if you find such disagreement with Mr. Sowell, I assume you won’t care much for Larry Elders latest either.
Warming Up to Obama’s Message of Hope and Change
One thing I will admit Senator Obama is very adept at is his vagueness in speaking. Listeners desiring things different read into what he says the thing they desire to hear.
To be honest with you, I don’t think much better of McCain either. He is hardly the best the GOP could have fronted this time.
Warming Up to Obama’s Message of Hope and Change
One thing I will admit Senator Obama is very adept at is his vagueness in speaking. Listeners desiring things different read into what he says the thing they desire to hear.
To be honest with you, I don’t think much better of McCain either. He is hardly the best the GOP could have fronted this time.
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Quite the article you linked to, Rudolf. Of course, I always read anything from the New York Times warily. Still, I have a difficult time understanding if those Egyptians are excited because Obama is Black or because they believe he has somewhat of a Muslim background, by his father.
Most telling to me, and it reinforces what I have said before, ”I just had dinner at a Nile-side restaurant with two Egyptian officials and a businessman, and one of them quoted one of his children as asking: “Could something like this ever happen in Egypt?” And the answer from everyone at the table was, of course, “no.” It couldn’t happen anywhere in this region. Could a Copt become president of Egypt? Not a chance. Could a Shiite become the leader of Saudi Arabia? Not in a hundred years. A Bahai president of Iran? In your dreams. Here, the past always buries the future, not the other way around.”
I find it rather disingenuous that countries that expect us to set a past wrong right by electing someone based upon skin color over qualifications won’t do it themselves.
If Obama wins, shouldn’t his first allegiance be to America and our citizens?
Most telling to me, and it reinforces what I have said before, ”I just had dinner at a Nile-side restaurant with two Egyptian officials and a businessman, and one of them quoted one of his children as asking: “Could something like this ever happen in Egypt?” And the answer from everyone at the table was, of course, “no.” It couldn’t happen anywhere in this region. Could a Copt become president of Egypt? Not a chance. Could a Shiite become the leader of Saudi Arabia? Not in a hundred years. A Bahai president of Iran? In your dreams. Here, the past always buries the future, not the other way around.”
I find it rather disingenuous that countries that expect us to set a past wrong right by electing someone based upon skin color over qualifications won’t do it themselves.
If Obama wins, shouldn’t his first allegiance be to America and our citizens?
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Here’s a question for you/me/us all to think about. I heard a theory of why Obama won so much support from the media. It has been frustrating me that Hilary was winning the popular vote, polls show she has a better chance of beating McCain, and yet at the same time, losing endorsements of Superdelegates and no media was picking up the story of her success.
So the theory that I heard was that no one among the liberal media wants to be thought of of as anti-black or racist or discriminating - so they are supporting Obama, even if its possible that Hilary is a better candidate. [yes, this is coming from a Hilary supporter - but in the end, I imagine I’ll vote democratic regardless!]
What do you think of that theory? Although it is certainly WAY better than the opposite situation (where a black man can’t get nominated) - I’m not sure it shows the equality that I’d like this country to have....