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Oscar

Oscar — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

I too wonder what we would do in ones shoes.. Can an outsider’s wish for peace in Gaza make a difference to the feelings and lifelong conflict of those who are actually there, living it, day after day..

I would like to think the world could unite, not choose sides, and just wish hard enough to create some type of binational peace in Garza...but then I, too, am only a dreamer...

Rudolf

Rudolf — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Oscar,

Outsiders have a view that I feel is important but nothing can be force-fed to those in the inside. The change may be dangled from outside but those in the inside must be ready to embrace it.

Oscar

Oscar — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

I agree. It’s always so much easier from the outside looking in, it almost (to our great disadvantage and misunderstanding) just looks so simple, easy to fix...Stop fighting..War, NO! Peace, YES! Plain and simple..

Unfortunatly, with all the good intentions we have, we also have ignorance..we have no emotional ties or stakes to claim other than wanting them ALL to live peacefully.

I pray for the embracing...

Almaha

Almaha — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

How do we expect to make peace if we fail to understand justice?

You can be silent and accept acts of injustice for the sake of peace, and also to let others live in peace, but would this last? No , it would not. You cannot accept injustice, it kills you inside.

Palestinians are being massacred in their lands that the Zionists occupied. And if they try to defend their lands and people and fight against those Zionists , they are killed and called terrorists. Is this just?

There will never be peace if we do not know what justice is.

Michael C

Michael C — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

I understand what you are saying Almaha, and it’s correct as it stands, but it’s only one side of the story if I may say so...

After all, if you consider the forced displacement of jews over time, and the fact that their country is threatened by most of those around it, it would be very easy to take THE WHOLE OF YOUR COMMENT and, by simply replacing ”Zionists” by ”Arabs”, and consider that jews too get called terrorists, you get more or less the same truth, the same massacres (suicide-bombers), the same just cause.

The author’s point was that we need to understand both sides of the picture if we want to make any progress here.

He is right, in my humble opinion.

Thanks

Rudolf

Rudolf — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Peter Tosh sang, ”There will be no peace/Till man gets equal rights/Equal rights and justice.”

J.F.Kennedy said, ”Those who make peaceful means impossible, make violent means inevitable.”

The problem is that none of these seems to be applied anywhere in the world, but moreso, in the Middle East.

There is really difficulty knowing where the reference point is. Where does the past begin? Where does the past end? Can the future spring up away from the past?

These are tough questions. But we have to find answers to them or else we continue to fail as human beings.

Incognito

Incognito — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Yes, Almaha, but *whose* justice? Every story has 2 sides and at some point in time you have to say, I want peace more than to have what I deem to be justice, which is *always* subjective.

Michael C

Michael C — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Oh!! The most pertinent comment I’ve read on IB for two days. Thanks for this little ray of sunsh.. I mean sanity here Rudolf.

Absolutely right on the button!!!

IT’S THE REFERENCE POINT, DUMMY!!!

Historical rights, future dreams, antecedents, imposing change.

They are all the enemies of pragmatic and life-saving action NOW!!!

Now means NOW!! THE PRESENT REFERENCE!!

And every second of ”now” lost is a future life lost too.....

Haider Bilgrami

Haider Bilgrami — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

As long as there is no respect to the statement of right to peacefully coexist this matter can never be resolved, ever. Palestenian say Israel, and Israeli says pelestenians, have no right to exist. Who the hell gave them this right. Both are the creation of Almighty with equal rights to exist, if they understand this fully there is no cause of conflict

Incognito

Incognito — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

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Sorry, Haider, but the Israelis have never said the Palestinians have no right to exist.��Hamas, on the other hand, has said the Israelis and Jews have no right to exist.� It’s written in their charter.� I have posted those sections referencing that.

Almaha

Almaha — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000

The Zionists settled in Palestine with the slogan ” a land without people to a people without a land” Enough said. This means they see Palestinians without identity and have no right to have a state.

Jews, Christians, and Muslims have the right to live their and they sure know how to coexist, but when the Zionists claim that Muslims and Christians have no identity and no right to have a state and the Jews are the chosen ones and Jerusalem belongs just to them, then this is unjust. And if there is no justice, there is no peace.

Michael Kerjman

Michael Kerjman — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Ideological brainwashing is a very obstacle to a peaceful future as blasts in Jakarta testified more recently once again.

It does not matter who one is-it is a matter who a person was educated by.

Michael Kerjman

Michael Kerjman — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Does it make difference between fly, spider or snake to be poisoned with mortally?

What is a difference between being killed from a missile falling during a war or unexpectedly lounged by mean terrorists from behind shoulders of supportive civics?

Death is death, and preventing the killing of own citizens is a very duty of any government seeking peace rather than own political gains, own very existence by provoking a world as Gaza rulers of the PA demonstrated steadily and right now.